How would you create a panorama like this?

edited December 2014 in Technique
All I know is that an rc aircraft was used (probably a quadcopter) and two cameras were mounted on top of each other.

http://panowings.com/folders/TourOfAustinDec2014/

You can pan around the image by dragging the mouse and also zoom by scrolling the mouse wheel.

Does anyone know of any software that can create a continuous 360 degree loop like this? In the past, Ive done panoramas on film - sticking the individual prints on a sheet of cardboard. I admit that Ive never used panoramic stitching software.

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  • FCB
    edited December 2014
    As far as I can tell it's simpler with KAP, to either lift a multi-camera rig, a DSLR with fish-eye lens, or sit in a single place for a long long time trying to get a lot of shots to try to stitch. Just not always as simple to get a camera into specific spots around obstacles.

    The software keeps changing but some of our old threads might be helpful.

    http://arch.ced.berkeley.edu/kap/discuss/index.php?p=/discussion/1790/biggest-virtual-reality-kap-bubble-panorama/p1

    http://www.arch.ced.berkeley.edu/kap/discuss/index.php?p=/discussion/4142/a-multi-camera-rig/p1

    http://arch.ced.berkeley.edu/kap/discuss/index.php?p=/discussion/689/panorama-software/p1

    Scott Haefner hasn't been very active for a while, but had some nice bubble panoramas a long time ago. And there are instructions about how he did it on a simpler rig.

    http://scotthaefner.com/360panos/kap/


    Also try searching the archive for terms "bubble panorama" "panorama software" "burst autoKAP" "multicamera rig" . . . .


  • edited December 2014
    A while back I posted a description of technique and a few examples of spherical QTVRs on my Hidden Ecologies site. The software cited may be a bit out of date.
  • Like Cris I've been making these for 10years+, I have over 100 KAP bubbles.

    Over the years I have use 3 rigs:
    The first is still the lightest http://gentles.info/KAP/Rigs/index.htm?item=6
    The second was the scariest http://gentles.info/KAP/Rigs/index.htm?item=7
    The latest gives images 12000x6000pixels http://gentles.info/KAP/Rigs/index.htm?item=15
    This page details the process and workflow (for new and old rigs) http://gentles.info/KAP/Gallery/Panotechnique/index.htm

    The gallery hasn't been updated for a wee while http://gentles.info/KAP/Gallery/index.htm,
    but there are another 50 of my KAP bubbles (including recent ones) on the World Wide Panorama site http://www.worldwidepanorama.org/worldwidepanorama/wwppeople/html/JamesGentles.html

    James
  • Robert used a multi-rotor for that, as you surmised. He and I used to build and launch water rockets many many years ago. I moved out to Hawaii and started doing KAP, he still lives in Austin and got into RC aircraft and multi-rotors. He's one of the most active aerial photographers I know.

    Robert may not agree (to my knowledge he's never done KAP), but doing panoramas from a KAP rig is pretty straightforward. I tend to stitch for prints rather than for bubbles, so I'll leave the software discussion to others. The great thing with KAP is that the camera really wants to sit in one spot unless you do something that makes it want to go somewhere else. This is more difficult with RC aircraft unless they pack a fair bit of electronics on board.

    When making panoramas on the ground it helps to have all the axes of your camera head rotate around the nodal point of the lens. This minimizes parallax shifts when the camera is rotated, and makes stitching easier. With aerials the subject is typically very far away, so the camera can move by several feet without having much of an effect on the resulting panorama. It helps to have a multi-camera rig that takes all the frames at one time, but it's not strictly necessary. A one-camera KAP rig can make really nice panoramas.

    The best way is to try it out for yourself. Grab your gear, fly at the subject of your choice, and take several sets of photos. A wind gust may move the camera enough to make one set hard to stitch, but a second (or third!) set from the same location may stitch well. Having a good set of photos in-hand helps when evaluating software since you can try it out with your own photos.

    Have fun!

    Tom
  • In my mind there are only 2 pieces of software that will allow you to construct such panoramas. That is, other than any software which may be bundled with the camera you buy.
    The first is PTGUI, which comes in 2 versions, a cut down one and the usual Pro version which allows you do far more manipulation. You do however have to pay for it. The other is Hugin, which is an open source free application that has now come of age although personally I have not experienced the newer versions.
    As for technique the above posts will supply you with all the information you need.

    Peter.
  • Ive been using Microsoft Composite Editor (ICE) to stitch together a panorama I shot recently. An interesting feature about ICE is that supposedly, you can upload panos to the Photosynth website where they are converted into interactive displays (allowing zooming and panning around etc.) Ive been trying to upload my pano to Photosynth from ICE all day and last night as well and I'm not having any success.

    I'm having a problem with logging in. Ive tried to sign in with my e-mail addy and password well over 40 times and I keep getting a message that says: "Could not sign in." No reason given. And I'm absolutely sure that I'm not making any typos when typing in my details. Twice, I deliberately typed my password incorrectly to see what would happen and it quickly notified me that I made an error. Does anyone here have any experience with ICE or Photosynth? Any tips that you can give me to get past the log in stage?
  • It's been a while.

    ICE will upload stuff to Photosynth. Used to be they were two separate projects, but they merged a couple of years ago. I don't think I have the software installed on my computer any more.

    Is there any button or checkbox for "I lost my username and password"? Even if you're typing everything right, that's a way to reset things on their end.

    Tom
  • edited February 2015
    Yea, I'm having no luck at all. There is an option in there to change my password which I did. And it sent this code to my e-mail address which I copy and pasted into the appropriate space in the sign up section and also typed in my new password. And it confirmed that my changing of the password was successful. I then tried to sign in again (with the new password) and once again, I'm greeted with the message "Could not sign in."

    I'm currently doing all this on a pc running Windows 7. There's a laptop around here (also with Windows 7) which I could download all the software on to and try signing in on that through ICE and see if that makes a difference.
  • Give it a try. But it's also possible their web site is just plain having fits. It wouldn't be the first time, unfortunately.

    Tom
  • I did indeed try today (with the laptop running 64 bit) and still no luck. I can sign in to the ICE forum and the Photosynth website using the same account just fine. I simply cannot sign in from within ICE though, regardless if it's 32bit or 64bit.
  • edited February 2015
    This will not help you at all, but after reading a post here I made myself a Photosynth account about a year ago. I spent quite a while on several tests and was impressed. A couple of months elapsed and I went back. Could never find the things I had made or sign in again and yes I did keep a note of my password. Just tried password recovery, no luck so far.
  • Problem solved finally, perhaps this will help! Try resetting your Photosynth password. During the procedure they will show your account e-mail address with some letters missing before the @. The next line asks you to fill in the missing letters. If you follow the instructions your attempt will fail. If you fill in all the address before the @ it works!!!
  • edited February 2015
    Tony, interesting solution! I'll give it a go!
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